tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post4605027149614614335..comments2023-09-21T03:23:53.524-07:00Comments on Allie the Clear Belt: Getting Girls to EngageA.D. McClishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07019434821749308292noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post-6263552057789739672010-11-29T08:12:20.467-08:002010-11-29T08:12:20.467-08:00Great advice from everyone, especially anonymous. ...Great advice from everyone, especially anonymous. I think moves need to be learned in context with some level of connection to the other parts of the game. It's tough! I also recommend Cane's blog (and the general approach of SBGi) about teaching jits-- focus first on the posture-- then the pressure-- and all the possibilities flow from that. Go give his blog The Gentle Art a read, it's a great insight into teaching jits.Georgettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08705282002904234217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post-41572157204836135392010-11-28T19:40:22.420-08:002010-11-28T19:40:22.420-08:00Everything everyone else said, AND
Be positive. ...Everything everyone else said, AND<br /><br />Be positive. When you see them do something right, make sure you tell them :) Make it fun. I totally think it's important that they know what to do from each position....like its a story...give them a linear set of events to follow...bjj is not anything close to linear, but that is much easier to follow at first.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post-69959380842868485482010-11-26T13:08:48.056-08:002010-11-26T13:08:48.056-08:00All very good points! I don't want to push the...All very good points! I don't want to push the girls to do more than they feel comfortable with. My only question is to know what I should do to encourage them to keep trying.A.D. McClishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019434821749308292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post-13764752159804020512010-11-26T03:57:38.711-08:002010-11-26T03:57:38.711-08:00It is really heart warming how you want to give th...It is really heart warming how you want to give them so much, but you have to remember that as a teacher (a good one, at least) your lesson must have two things before stepping on the mat:<br /><br />1. Objective: This is for the learner. Example is the scissor sweep: grips, movement, angle, execution...etc. what do they need to learn?<br /><br />2. Aims: this is for the teacher. Example is practice how to teach the scissor sweep, how to devise drills for it, how to stick to the time-frame, how to sneak a peak at the clock, how to address questions, how to balance TTT (teacher-talk-time) with STT (Student-talk-time)...etc.<br /><br />I've always felt that martial arts and jiu jitsu in particular are about building relationships with people. The techniques are tools to do that. I'd rather use one tool to make someone work hard, make them face who they are deep down inside (how do they react to success, failure, hesitation, resistance...etc.) than spend the same session covering many techniques. But I'm a hippie :o)Liam H Wandihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15592644859626736304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post-61156016258848666692010-11-25T11:12:47.337-08:002010-11-25T11:12:47.337-08:00I agree with Kim and Savage. I think it will take ...I agree with Kim and Savage. I think it will take time, as well as patience and encouragement on your part. It also may have something to do with their age...? <br /><br />Do they feel a little more comfortable rolling with you, if they have? When I first started out, I found it very helpful to have a more experienced person give me an idea of what I should be doing when I was feeling clueless.<br /><br />I also found it very helpful when - in my first two months - this huge purple belt guy would just move around and encourage me to transition between positions. Mount>Side Control> Back. It gave me a very good idea of the "flow" involved.<br /><br />Would it be bad if you "coached" by pausing the roll to point out a little thing that they could be trying to do? <br /><br />Maybe just give a little pep talk, if you sense them getting frustrated, about the dedication required but that once they get it, it'll be something they'll have forever!<br /><br />I think it's awesome what you're doing for them, by the way! The environment at the barn is probably a lot less intimidating than a regular club; I'm sure that helps.Ashleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00389820287771206112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post-49568869708302441012010-11-24T21:40:27.608-08:002010-11-24T21:40:27.608-08:00I third what Kim and Kitsune said. The four moves ...I third what Kim and Kitsune said. The four moves you taught them so far are not connected. If they are starting out in neutral or the guard, do they know how to Get to the back to initiate the RNC? How to Get to the mount to do an armbar from the mount? Does the guard pass put them in a position to use the americana or put them directly in the mount for the armbar?<br /><br />On the other hand, even if they know only a sweep, a guard pass to mount, an escape from mount, and submissions from the guard and mount, then they already have a game they can play, not some big mystery: 1. Pass guard, establish mount, attempt submission. 2. Attempt sub from guard, attempt sweep, establish mount, attempt sub. 3. Escape from mount, re-establish guard, submit or sweep and submit. Etc . . . <br /><br />As for aggressive engagement, that is potentially another story. They could be shy. (All of them, really?) Here's what I would do: Ask one point blank if she wants to roll. If yes, ask another. If yes, tell them to roll with each other. If no, tell them to get off the mat until they decide they want to roll. Eventually they will either start saying yes, or get bored and stop coming. If they aren't really into it, they should come back when they are ready and quit wasting your time. You can lead a horse to water . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post-57334888861465449922010-11-24T17:35:04.390-08:002010-11-24T17:35:04.390-08:00Agreed- they do not know what to do or even what t...Agreed- they do not know what to do or even what they are supposed to TRY to do. I was the same way when I started. I didn't even understand what the objectives were.<br /><br />When I began teaching a few of my friends, I started with some basic positions and terminology. I taught them three simple guard passes, three simple subs, and two sweeps. I verbally quizzed them on such things as "What is your job when you are in someone's guard?" (Try to pass the guard) "What is your job when you have someone in YOUR guard?" (Keep the opponent from passing your guard, while staying on the lookout for sweeps and subs) "What are the first things you do when you find yourself in someone's guard?" (Base and posture) I had them describe what side control is, what makes a good back mount, what pulling guard means. As they learned the guard passes and sweeps, I had them describe the techniques in minute detail. I quizzed them over and over till they could spit answers to everything I asked them. We drilled the techniques till they were comfortable with them.<br /><br />So when it came to try sparring a little, they knew a few things to try, and more importantly they knew what was going on and what their objectives were. And when they came to a real class, they could follow what was being taught. I had told/shown them everything I could think of that I *wished* someone had told/shown me early on, but that I had had to figure out for myself. It gave them a big head start over people who began taking classes in a clueless state.SavageKitsunehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02316123482167861940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post-68350202610029932282010-11-24T14:39:03.944-08:002010-11-24T14:39:03.944-08:00I think it has a lot to do with not knowing how to...I think it has a lot to do with not knowing how to do anything. I started maybe 3 weeks ago, 3 classes a week, and have just started to feel only ok about "engaging". It wasn't about learning fancy moves for me so much as transitioning between positions, sweeps, escapes, wrist control, weight distribution and whatnot. Your girls probably don't know HOW to resist and defend themselves so they seem passive to you. One minute you're on top, the next you're on your back and you have no freakin' clue how you got there, let alone what to do about it. I honestly don't remember half the submissions we've learned in class, but now I feel like I can jockey for position a little and feel like I'm doing *something*.<br /><br />I also had a 1 hour private lesson where my instructor ran me through a series of very fluid transitions between a lot of the positions that really helped get rid of my feeling of being "stuck".Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13452655142804286413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post-16422137473910946712010-11-24T13:17:14.259-08:002010-11-24T13:17:14.259-08:00^^ hahahah! That story totally made me laugh out ...^^ hahahah! That story totally made me laugh out loud! Epic.Jiujitsunistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09041502171382772751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006145854650996821.post-80978801022385418352010-11-24T12:12:29.069-08:002010-11-24T12:12:29.069-08:00Your post reminded me of a funny story - When I fi...Your post reminded me of a funny story - When I first started as a white belt one of the TOP guys in the club who just came over from Brazil only spoke Portuguese (he was a 4 stripe Brown at the time). I asked him a question not knowing he did not know English very well yet. Well, he asked the instructor (his friend and fellow Brazilian) what I said and the instructor told him I called him a sissy and said that I said his BJJ was trash. He smashed the CRAP out of me....but it pretty funny from an outsiders perspective. After class I figured something "got lost in the translation".BJJ Judohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14732921408093824985noreply@blogger.com